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The Builders

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Whose imagination do you want to live in? In this new series, bestselling biographer Walter Isaacson sits down with the most consequential names in AI and tech to understand the futures they're racing to build. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, Fei-Fei Li, Dario and Daniela Amodei, and more open up about their ambitions, what frightens them, how they think about humanity, and what drives them to build so big and so fast. The conversations are intimate, charming, and sometimes chilling. But mostly, they're impossible to dismiss. Because whether or not you agree with them, it's their imaginatio

Latest episodes

  1. After The Builders: On Dario & Daniela Amodei and Mustafa Suleyman Oct 30, 2026 · 47 min
  2. Mustafa Suleyman: AI Should Serve Humanity, Not Replace It Oct 29, 2026 · 52 min
  3. Dario & Daniela Amodei: "This Is Gonna Determine the Fate of Nations and the Future of Humanity” Oct 27, 2026 · 40 min
  4. After The Builders: On Musk and Thiel Oct 23, 2026 · 50 min
  5. Peter Thiel: “We Need to Hit the Accelerator As Hard As Possible” on AI Oct 22, 2026 · 57 min
  6. Elon Musk: "Humans Won't Be in Control" When AI Becomes Smarter Than Us Oct 20, 2026 · 40 min
  7. ON MUSK Episode Four: What is Musk's Legacy? Oct 17, 2026 · 44 min
  8. ON MUSK Episode Three: Storytelling and Hot Takes Oct 16, 2026 · 45 min
  9. ON MUSK Episode Two: Demons Oct 15, 2026 · 43 min
  10. ON MUSK Episode One: Genius Oct 14, 2026 · 32 min

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